Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

04/11/2012 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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         SB 210 - CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN/SUPPORT/CINA                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Contains  brief mention  that provisions  of SB  186 and  SB 212                                                               
have   been  incorporated   into  a   proposed  House   committee                                                               
substitute for SB 210, Version O.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:19:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  THOMPSON announced that  the first order  of business                                                               
would be  CS FOR SENATE  BILL NO.  210(FIN), "An Act  relating to                                                               
crimes against children; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  THOMPSON  noted  that  a  proposed  House  committee                                                               
substitute (HCS) for  SB 210 in members'  packets now encompasses                                                               
three bills, with Sections 1-4  pertaining to SB 210, Sections 5-                                                               
17 and 20 pertaining to SB  186, and Sections 18-19 pertaining to                                                               
SB 212.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER   moved  to   adopt  the   proposed  House                                                               
committee  substitute  (HCS)  for SB  210,  Version  27-LS1362\O,                                                               
Wayne, 4/10/12, as the working document.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR THOMPSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY  SALTZMAN,   Staff,  Senator  Lesil  McGuire,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, relayed,  on behalf of the  sponsor, Senator McGuire                                                               
that  she would  be discussing  the  portions of  Version O  that                                                               
incorporate  the provisions  of SB  210.   She explained  that on                                                               
2/8/12, the  Alaska Children's Justice  Act Task  Force presented                                                               
findings  to a  joint meeting  of the  Senate Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee and  the Health &  Social Services  Standing Committee,                                                               
and  recommended  improvements  to Alaska's  statutes  addressing                                                               
crimes  against  children.   According  to  statistics, in  2008,                                                               
approximately  12,400  children  were  likely the  victim  of  an                                                               
incident of  maltreatment, and one  out of every  five children's                                                               
deaths was  related to maltreatment.   She then offered  a couple                                                               
of  examples  of  recent  [heinous]  crimes  perpetrated  against                                                               
children  to  illustrate  how  existing  law  is  inadequate  for                                                               
purposes of  appropriately punishing  those who  do such  harm to                                                               
children.   Via SB 210,  she relayed,  the sponsor is  seeking to                                                               
implement three  of the recommended  changes in order  to address                                                               
shortcomings in existing law.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN explained that [Section  1 of Version O] would raise                                                               
the child-victim's age threshold  in AS 11.41.220(a) - addressing                                                               
the crime of assault  in the third degree - from  10 years of age                                                               
to 12 years of  age.  [Sections 2 and 3  together, in amending AS                                                               
11.51.100(a) and  (f) respectively,]  would make the  behavior of                                                               
recklessly  failing to  provide  adequate food  or  liquids to  a                                                               
child  sufficient  to  cause  protracted  impairment  of  his/her                                                               
health  a Class  C felony;  AS 11.51.100  addresses the  crime of                                                               
endangering  the  welfare  of  a   child  in  the  first  degree.                                                               
[Section  4]  would modify  the  definition  in AS  11.81.900(56)                                                               
regarding   what  constitutes   a   "serious  physical   injury";                                                               
Section 4's proposed AS 11.81.900(56)(C) reads:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (C) physical injury  to a person under 12  years of age                                                                
     that causes                                                                                                            
          (i) serious disfigurement;                                                                                        
          (ii) impairment of health, by serious bruising or                                                                 
     other   injury,   that  reasonably   requires   medical                                                                
     evaluation or treatment by a health care professional;                                                                 
          (iii) loss or impairment of the function of a                                                                     
     body member or organ; or                                                                                               
          (iv) serious impediment of blood circulation or                                                                   
     breathing;                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
MS.    SALTZMAN   added    that   in    Section   4's    proposed                                                               
AS 11.81.900(56)(C),   sub-subparagraph  (ii)   focuses  on   the                                                               
impairment of  the child's health  sufficient to  require medical                                                               
evaluation or treatment  - and, as currently  worded, could apply                                                               
in  situations  where,  for  example,  a  child  develops  anemia                                                               
because of being  subjected to serious bruising  or other injury;                                                               
and   that  sub-subparagraph   (iv)   is   intended  to   address                                                               
strangulation crimes in which the  strangulation itself could not                                                               
be proven but bruising was evident.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:27:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  referred  to  Section  2's  proposed  new                                                               
AS 11.51.100(a)(4), which read:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                    (4)   recklessly    fails   to   provide                                                                
     adequate   food  or   liquids  to   a  child,   causing                                                                
     protracted impairment of the child's health.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  asked whether  the phrase,  "adequate food                                                           
or liquids" refers to the quantity  of the food or liquids, or to                                                           
its nutritional value.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN  explained that  the key  wording in  that provision                                                               
is,  "causing protracted  impairment of  the child's  health"; in                                                               
other words,  if the food  or liquids provided were  inadequate -                                                               
in terms of  either quantity or nutritional value -  to the point                                                               
of causing the protracted impairment  of the child's health, then                                                               
that provision would apply.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:29:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section,  Criminal  Division,  Department  of  Law  (DOL),  cited                                                               
Blakely v. Washington,  124 S. Ct. 2531 (U.S.,  2004), which held                                                             
that  if  the finding  of  a  fact  could increase  the  possible                                                               
maximum  penalty for  a person  charged with  a crime,  that fact                                                               
needs  to be  found  by the  jury by  proof  beyond a  reasonable                                                               
doubt.   She said that  decision made  a huge impact  on Alaska's                                                               
sentencing  law,  because  Alaska  had a  procedure  regarding  a                                                               
presumptive term  and aggravating, mitigating factors,  which the                                                               
court  at  sentencing  had  to   find  by  clear  and  convincing                                                               
evidence.   She said one  exception to  the Blakely ruling  is if                                                             
the aggravating factor is a  prior conviction that has been found                                                               
by  a previous  jury.   She related  that mitigating  factors are                                                               
still  found by  clear  and  convincing evidence  to  a court  at                                                               
sentencing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI said  the fallout  from the  Blakely decision  has                                                             
been long and  drawn out because of many  factors not anticipated                                                               
by the  state when it  rewrote its sentencing  law in 2005.   She                                                               
said  SB 210  addresses many  of those  provisions and  clarifies                                                               
procedures in statute that have been enunciated in case law.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI stated that Sections 5,  6, and 7 pertain to people                                                               
who  are found  guilty  but  mentally ill.    She explained  that                                                               
Alaska  law  provides that  a  person  who  is found  guilty  but                                                               
mentally  ill is  not entitled  to mandatory  parole -  sometimes                                                               
called, "good  time" -  until that  person has  been found  to no                                                               
longer be a danger to the  public.  She said the possibility that                                                               
a  person  convicted of  a  crime  and  found  to be  guilty  but                                                               
mentally ill would  not be given good time  like other defendants                                                               
means that  the maximum term  rises, thus requiring the  issue to                                                               
be  submitted  to  the  jury,  which must  find  proof  beyond  a                                                               
reasonable doubt in order for that  person to be found guilty but                                                               
mentally ill.  She stated that a  person no longer has a right to                                                               
good time; he/she may or may not qualify.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  surmised that  a  finding  of guilty  but                                                               
mentally ill could  be considered to increase the  penalty by not                                                               
allowing good time.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES asked, "In  other sentences doesn't it also                                                               
decrease the penalty?"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI answered  no.  She said under current  law a person                                                               
found guilty but mentally ill is  treated for that illness, but a                                                               
person  found guilty  for  the  crime is  entitled  to good  time                                                               
unless he/she  has problems in  the correctional system  - he/she                                                               
is entitled to  one-third of his/her sentence off  for good time.                                                               
A person found  guilty but mentally ill may not  qualify for that                                                               
good  time, because  he/she still  may  present a  danger to  the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI, in  response to a question,  explained that people                                                               
who are found  not guilty by reason of insanity  are generally in                                                               
a situation where  their illness prevented them  from forming the                                                               
culpable mental state to commit the  crime.  People who are found                                                               
guilty  but mentally  ill are  found  to have  committed all  the                                                               
elements of  the crime, but  they have  an illness that  may have                                                               
affected their behavior.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI, returning  to  her  presentation, explained  that                                                               
Section  8,  on  page  5,  is  a  "catchall"  provision.    Under                                                               
sentencing  law,  as originally  formulated  in  the 1980s,  most                                                               
factual findings were  found by a preponderance  of the evidence.                                                               
As a result of the changes in  law that have been made, there are                                                               
many sections besides those currently  accepted in Section 8 that                                                               
have a different burden of proof.   She said it is better to have                                                               
a general  catchall so that  factual issues in Title  12, Chapter                                                               
55,  are  decided  by  a preponderance  of  evidence  unless  the                                                               
statute itself says  something else, which many statutes  do as a                                                               
result of the Blakely decision.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said Sections  9 and 10  address a  situation that                                                               
arose most  recently in State v.  Henry.  She explained  that the                                                             
Henry  decision by  the Court  of  Appeals allowed  the court  to                                                             
reduce the period  of probation in cases where  the defendant was                                                               
convicted as the  result of a negotiated plea, and  Section 9 and                                                               
10 would  disallow that  reduction unless  both parties  agree to                                                               
the change.  The  reason for this is that when  the state and the                                                               
defense enter into  plea negotiations, both sides  give up things                                                               
and gain things in exchange.   She offered her understanding that                                                               
in the  Henry case,  the defendant was  sentenced under  the plea                                                             
agreement, violated  his probation,  and came  back to  court and                                                               
asked for  the period of probation  to be reduced.   She said the                                                               
state opposed the  request, because he had agreed  to that amount                                                               
of time  and the state had  reasons for requiring that  amount of                                                               
probation  to protect  the  public.   The  court  found that  the                                                               
sentencing court should reevaluate  the Chaney criteria [from the                                                               
Alaska v. Chaney  case, codified in AS  12.55.005] and resentence                                                             
the  person.   She said  the DOL's  position was  that the  court                                                               
should look at the criteria, but  should not reduce the period of                                                               
probation  that  the defendant  and  state  have reached  through                                                               
bargaining and agreement.  In  response to Representative Holmes,                                                               
she confirmed that Sections 8 and 9 are a policy call.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  surmised that the key  language is that                                                               
the  court  may  not  reduce  the period  of  probation,  and  he                                                               
suggested   that  may   be  an   infringement  on   the  judicial                                                               
prerogative.  He asked if that is constitutional.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI answered that she believes  it is because it is the                                                               
result of a negotiated plea that the court has accepted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said  Ms.  Carpeneti  is impugning  the                                                               
principles  of  contract  law into  sentencing  and  saying  that                                                               
trumps  the  right  of  the sentencing  judge  to  apply  his/her                                                               
independent judgment, which is based  on his/her independent role                                                               
as the final interpreter of laws.   He asked if Ms. Carpeneti has                                                               
authority to support whether that is constitutional.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said she would provide it.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE     GRUENBERG     said    he     questions     the                                                               
constitutionality, particularly  if Ms. Carpeneti is  saying that                                                               
the court  has the  authority to increase  the sentence,  but not                                                               
the  authority  to  consider factors  in  mitigation  that  might                                                               
reduce  the probation.   He  offered his  understanding that  Ms.                                                               
Carpeneti had  said that  the court  could increase  the sentence                                                               
because of the probation [violation].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI confirmed that is correct.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  opined that  if the  court can  do that                                                               
based on the  circumstances that led to  the probation violation,                                                               
then  it   should  be  equally   free  to  consider   factors  in                                                               
mitigation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said she would provide backup information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said  he would  like to  see the  Henry                                                             
case that  goes opposite  to the  DOL's position,  as well  as to                                                               
hear from "the other side."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI said  it  is a  policy  call.   She  said the  DOL                                                               
entered into  an agreement,  in the process  of which  it dropped                                                               
some charges, which  it is no longer in a  position to reinstate.                                                               
She  reiterated her  statement that  the  defendant violated  the                                                               
conditions  of his  probation  and that  the  court, under  those                                                               
circumstances, should not  be able to reduce the  terms that were                                                               
already agreed  upon by the  parties for  what is a  violation of                                                               
probation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:45:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI stated  that Section  11 addresses  the sentencing                                                               
provisions for murder in the  first degree and the mandatory term                                                               
of  imprisonment  for  certain  offenses.    Currently,  statutes                                                               
provide  that  the  court  can  find,  by  clear  and  convincing                                                               
evidence, that the defendant subjected  the victim to substantial                                                               
physical torture  and that the  defendant is a peace  officer who                                                               
used  his/her authority  in facilitating  the murder.   She  said                                                               
this is  no longer  the law.   Under  Blakely v.  Washington, the                                                             
state has  to prove  these factors by  proof beyond  a reasonable                                                               
doubt to get  a mandatory 99-year term of  imprisonment.  Section                                                               
11  would change  Alaska  statute  to comply  with  what the  law                                                               
already is.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  said  Section  12  sets  out  procedures  already                                                               
required by  the Blakely  v. Washington  decision, such  that the                                                             
facts that establish and justify  a 99-year mandatory term, which                                                               
is not  eligible for good time,  have to be determined  by a jury                                                               
beyond a reasonable doubt.   She directed attention to subsection                                                               
(p), on  page 6, and  talked about ranges within  the presumptive                                                               
sentencing law.   For example, she said the  presumptive range is                                                               
7-11 years  for a Class A  felony if the person  possessed a fire                                                               
arm at the time he/she committed  the felony.  She said there are                                                               
various factors already in law  in terms of increasing the range;                                                               
Section 12 clarifies that those factors  have to be proven to the                                                               
fact finder by proof beyond a reasonable doubt.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred  to "procedures  set  by  the                                                               
court", shown on page 6, line 27,  and he asked if that means the                                                               
procedures are set by the trial court or set by court rule.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI answered  that the  language recognizes  that when                                                               
the  verdict is  reached  is the  time when  the  court may  make                                                               
arrangements if  the same  jury must,  at that  point, deliberate                                                               
over whether  or not  aggravating factors have  been found.   She                                                               
stated, "It's  hard to  set out with  ... a lot  of detail  how a                                                               
judge, under the circumstances, should  do it; it just recognizes                                                               
that a judge will ... adopt  whatever procedures work in terms of                                                               
that jury  and that ...  case."  In  response to a  question, Ms.                                                               
Carpeneti said  she does not  see this  as a legal  decision, but                                                               
rather  as a  practical  consideration of,  for example,  whether                                                               
there is  room for a jury  to go back and  deliberate aggravating                                                               
factors or  the judge could  let them go  home for the  night and                                                               
deliberate the  next day.  She  said the language is  intended to                                                               
recognize the fact that certain  decisions and procedures need to                                                               
be made in the moment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:52:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  stated that Section 13,  subsection (i), addresses                                                               
one  particular  aggravating  factor,  which  is  that  when  the                                                               
conduct  of the  defendant when  he/she committed  the crime  was                                                               
among the most  serious, as defined by the court,  the jury shall                                                               
make  an assessment  of the  facts by  proof beyond  a reasonable                                                               
doubt.   In response to questions  from Representative Gruenberg,                                                               
she explained that the court  would give the jury the opportunity                                                               
to determine  whether the state  has proven these facts  by proof                                                               
beyond a  reasonable doubt,  and once that  has happened,  if the                                                               
jury decides the factors are  present, then the court would apply                                                               
those factors to  a consideration of whether or not  they are the                                                               
most serious.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:56:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  whether  that  provision  would                                                               
raise constitutional problems.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  attempted to clarify  that this  language pertains                                                               
to the  time after which the  jury has found the  defendant to be                                                               
guilty,  directly  after  the  verdict  is  returned,  and  to  a                                                               
situation in which the state says  it would like to establish the                                                               
aggravating  factor that  the defendant's  conduct  was the  most                                                               
serious  in  the definition  of  the  offense.   She  offered  an                                                               
example.  She said DOL thinks  that Blakely requires the state to                                                             
submit  to the  jury, directly  after  the verdict  is read,  the                                                               
factors it claims would justify  defining the conduct as the most                                                               
serious in the  definition of the defense, for  example, that the                                                               
defendant  caused  the victim  an  injury  that made  the  victim                                                               
unable to  walk for the rest  of his/her life.   Consideration of                                                               
those facts  would be  submitted to the  trial jury,  which would                                                               
determine whether the  state had proven them  beyond a reasonable                                                               
doubt.   The court would  then make  the legal decision  based on                                                               
that information.   She agreed  to provide cases.   She confirmed                                                               
that the ultimate  finding of fact must be left  to the jury, but                                                               
said whether  the conduct was  the most serious, within  a range,                                                               
is a  question of  law.   She said, for  example, that  there are                                                               
several  ways that  a  person  can commit  assault  in the  first                                                               
degree, and  the judge  would be  able to  evaluate that  law and                                                               
apply  the  facts  that  are  found   by  the  jury  to  all  the                                                               
definitions  of  assault  in  the  first degree  or  by  all  the                                                               
definitions of theft in the second degree.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:03:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  directed attention to subsection  (j), which would                                                               
allow  the court  to increase  the  term of  imprisonment to  the                                                               
potential maximum  so that the  remaining factors  in aggravation                                                               
can be proved by clear and convincing evidence to a jury.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI said  Sections 14  and  15 are  conforming to  the                                                               
proposed change in  Sections 9 and 10, regarding the  change of a                                                               
sentence as  a result of  a probation  violation.  Section  16 is                                                               
the  indirect court  rule  amendment.   She  explained that  when                                                               
changes are made in sentencing  provisions, care is taken to note                                                               
court rules that  might be changing.  She said  the provisions in                                                               
the previously  discussed subsection (p) "may  have the effective                                                               
change in the  court rule," although she said she  does not think                                                               
so.   She  briefly mentioned  the applicability  section [Section                                                               
17].    She  said  Section 18  addresses  human  trafficking  and                                                               
requires the DOL  to establish a task  force with representatives                                                               
of the DOL,  the Department of Public Safety,  and the Department                                                               
of Health  & Social Services,  and two members, appointed  by the                                                               
governor,   representing   nongovernmental  health   and   social                                                               
services providers.  She explained  the purpose of the task force                                                               
is  to  study the  prevalence  of  human trafficking  in  Alaska,                                                               
including:     how  many  cases   have  been  submitted   to  law                                                               
enforcement, how many cases have  been prosecuted, how many times                                                               
the  state   has  cooperated  with  the   federal  government  in                                                               
prosecuting  or   investigating  human  trafficking,   and  which                                                               
services are available to victims  of these offenses.  She opined                                                               
that  it would  be good  to  have a  clear idea  of where  Alaska                                                               
stands  regarding  human  trafficking  in  the  state,  and  this                                                               
information  would  help  the   legislature  decide  whether  the                                                               
state's laws need  to be changed or if anything  else needs to be                                                               
done to address the issue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  suggested  consideration be  given  to                                                               
include legislators on the task force.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:08:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN  offered her  understanding that  the intent  of the                                                               
proposed task force is to  advise the legislature, at which point                                                               
the legislature  could make decisions based  on that information.                                                               
Notwithstanding that,  she agreed  to provide that  suggestion to                                                               
the sponsor.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:09:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG referred  to  the language  on page  9,                                                               
line 23,  which states that the  task force "shall hold  at least                                                               
one public meeting".   He expressed concern that  that may result                                                               
in the task force holding only one meeting.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SALTZMAN  surmised  that that  language  could  be  changed;                                                               
however,  she  pointed out  that  the  task  force may  want  the                                                               
majority  of its  meetings to  be private,  because it  discusses                                                               
private issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SALTZMAN, in  response to  Representative Keller,  confirmed                                                               
that the required  minimum one public meeting  would occur within                                                               
a year, because the task force expires after one year.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN   remarked  that  he  thinks   the  language                                                               
regarding at least one meeting is clear.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG questioned  whether  the proposed  task                                                               
force would  be subject to  the Open  Meetings Act, and  he asked                                                               
under  what  conditions  Ms. Saltzman  anticipated  the  meetings                                                               
would not be public.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN agreed to conduct further research on the issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG suggested  that the  task force  may be                                                               
able  to  keep  the  identities of  the  people  being  discussed                                                               
confidential, while allowing the public to attend the meetings.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES emphasized the need to keep victims safe.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS  MOODY,   Deputy  Public  Defender,   Criminal  Division,                                                               
Central  Office,  Public  Defender Agency  (PDA),  Department  of                                                               
Administration   (DOA),  referred   to   Section   4,  in   which                                                               
subparagraph  (C)  is  proposed  as  new  language  to  amend  AS                                                               
11.81.900(56).     He   pointed  out   that  the   term  "serious                                                           
disfigurement"  is  used  in subparagraph  (C),  sub-subparagraph                                                           
(i), [page 4, line 3], and he said  he does not know if that term                                                               
is  intended  to have  a  definition  different from  "protracted                                                               
disfigurement", which is the standard  definition used in Section                                                               
4, subparagraph  (B), [on page 3,  line 29].  Mr.  Moody referred                                                               
to  the  phrase,  "reasonably   requires  medical  evaluation  or                                                           
treatment by a  health care professional", which  is in reference                                                           
to "impairment of health, by  serious bruising or other injury" -                                                           
further proposed language of subparagraph  (C), [as shown in sub-                                                               
subparagraph  (ii),  on  page  4,   lines  4-6].    He  said  his                                                               
experience  has shown  that parents  with  good health  insurance                                                               
take their  children to  the doctor all  the time,  while parents                                                               
without  good health  insurance  are more  reticent about  taking                                                               
their children to see a doctor.   He said the parents without the                                                               
good  insurance are  not necessarily  putting  their children  in                                                               
danger, but it is "a different decision tree."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES,  regarding "reasonably  requires  medical                                                           
evaluation  or   treatment  by   a  health   care  professional",                                                           
expressed concern regarding  stiff penalties being set  for a low                                                               
bar.   She then  referred to  the phrase,  "physical injury  to a                                                           
person under  12 years of  age", and she  asked about the  age of                                                           
the  perpetrator  and whether  consideration  had  been given  to                                                               
children hurting  each other while  playing in a  playground, for                                                               
example.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY responded that that could be  an issue.  He said in one                                                               
of the  definitional provisions, "serious physical  injury" is an                                                               
element of  assault.  He  said Assault  1 is an  automatic waiver                                                               
statute.  He  relayed that a high school student  who is 17 years                                                               
of  age  could end  up  automatically  waived on  felony  assault                                                               
charges, whereas a child 12 years  of age, in junior high school,                                                               
could  end up  charged with  Assault 1,  but within  the juvenile                                                               
system.   He added, "It would  apply to a juvenile,  because this                                                               
is  just the  definition of  'serious physical  injury', not  the                                                               
definition of the offense."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:19:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG disclosed  that when he was  a child, he                                                               
assaulted another child who had kicked  him, and he said he would                                                               
not have wanted to be charged with a felony as a result.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:20:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY directed attention to  language on page 3, lines 19-20,                                                               
which read:   "(4) recklessly  fails to provide adequate  food or                                                           
liquids to a child, causing  protracted impairment of the child's                                                           
health."   He said he  had viewed  this language as  referring to                                                           
starvation prevention  until he  heard Representative  Holmes ask                                                               
about the adequacy  of the type of food provided.   Now, he said,                                                               
he questions  whether someone might  be charged with a  crime for                                                               
giving too  much soda pop and  sweets to his/her child,  who then                                                               
becomes  fat and  gets  Type II  Diabetes.   He  said  that is  a                                                               
protracted health impairment, which  "would appear to follow from                                                               
that."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:21:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY directed  attention to Section 6, on  page 4, regarding                                                               
guilty  but  mentally  ill  (GBMI)   provisions,  which  he  said                                                               
currently  do not  affect  many  clients.   He  explained that  a                                                               
defense  council will  do  everything possible  to  avoid a  GBMI                                                               
verdict,  because  it  results  in  greater  punishment  for  the                                                               
client, since  they don't  get paroled and  are not  eligible for                                                               
early release  to a halfway  house.   He suggested that  a review                                                               
provision  be  added   to  the  bill  in  order   to  ensure  the                                                               
opportunity for someone  with a GBMI verdict to  show that he/she                                                               
should  be  eligible for  parole.    Currently, he  explained,  a                                                               
person found  GBMI at a  trial or change  of plea hearing  has no                                                               
opportunity  to have  the finding  reviewed, even  if the  person                                                               
ends up medicated, stabilized, and a model prisoner.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY directed  attention to Section 10, on page  5, and said                                                               
this is  the provision  that prohibits  the court  from adjusting                                                               
the  sentence  at  all  if  someone comes  back  on  a  probation                                                               
revocation.   He said the basic  premise of the 2010  case, State                                                             
v. Henry,  to which Ms.  Carpeneti referred, was that  whenever a                                                             
defendant who is  on probation comes back before the  court for a                                                               
probation violation,  the court must reevaluate  the sentence and                                                               
impose the  proper sentence based  on the Chaney  criteria, given                                                             
the  original conduct  and all  the  intervening conduct,  rather                                                               
than just impose  all the suspended time.  He  said that has been                                                               
the law in  Alaska since at least  the 1980s.  He  said he thinks                                                               
the provision has potential  constitutional issues, because there                                                               
will never  be a situation  where there will be  direct appellate                                                               
review of a  sentence.  He explained that currently  the Court of                                                               
Appeals does  not review suspended  time in sentences,  but takes                                                               
the position  that it  will review a  sentence only  to determine                                                               
whether it  was appropriate under  Chaney criteria once  the time                                                             
is  imposed, because  if  it is  never imposed,  it  is never  an                                                               
issue.   He said, "With  this change in  the law, it  would never                                                               
... get  presented, because the  court would never reduce  it and                                                               
decide  whether   the  entire  sentence  -   suspended  time  and                                                               
unsuspended time - was appropriate in light of Chaney."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY  said the constitutional  issue is in trying  to remove                                                               
the ability  of the court  to evaluate  the sentence as  a whole.                                                               
As  a matter  of policy,  most sentences  are negotiated  so that                                                               
both the  state and the defense  end up giving up  something.  He                                                               
said  a  defendant is  offered  jail  time,  but  with a  lot  of                                                               
suspended time;  it is not  an equal bargaining  position between                                                               
the  state and  the defendant.    He stated  that all  defendants                                                               
think they will do well on  probation.  Without the evaluation of                                                               
the appellate  court, clients will  enter into bad  deals against                                                               
the advice  of counsel,  because "whatever  happens on  the road,                                                               
they're getting out today."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:27:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  Mr.  Moody  to   confirm  that                                                               
currently the Court of Appeals  does not review the imposition of                                                               
a  suspended  sentence,  because  the suspension  is  still  "out                                                               
there"  and may  never be  imposed; therefore,  that issue  would                                                               
not,  in a  legal sense,  be ripe  for decision  at the  time the                                                               
court enters it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY said  that is  correct.   For  example, he  said if  a                                                               
defendant gets  five years  with two  years suspended,  an appeal                                                               
could be  made related  to the excessiveness  of the  three years                                                               
imposed, but  the court would  not address whether the  extra two                                                               
years were excessive  until they are imposed,  because they might                                                               
never be  imposed.  In  response to Representative  Gruenberg, he                                                               
said he  thinks the decision of  whether a person is  adhering to                                                               
his/her suspended sentence probation  schedule or should have the                                                               
suspended portion  of the sentence  imposed should be left  up to                                                               
the judge to determine, which is current practice.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY  stated that  Section 13,  on page  7, would  split the                                                               
aggravating  factor finding  for  most serious  conduct into  two                                                               
parts.   He said  he disagrees with  the DOL's  interpretation of                                                               
this provision.   He said the U.S. Supreme Court  in Blakely said                                                             
that factual findings  that increase a sentence need  to be found                                                               
by the trial  jury beyond reasonable doubt.  He  said the factual                                                               
finding is that this conduct  was amongst the most serious within                                                               
the class,  and he said  he thinks that can  be tried to  a jury.                                                               
He  said there  is a  range  of injury  that the  state is  fully                                                               
capable of  presenting the evidence to  show.  He said  he thinks                                                               
the splitting  of the aggravating  factor finding would  be found                                                               
unconstitutional.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG referred  to Section  18 and  asked Mr.                                                               
Moody  if  he  thinks  someone  from the  Office  of  the  Public                                                               
Defender should be represented on the aforementioned taskforce.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY  said he thinks the  PDA would be a  valuable member of                                                               
the  task  force,  but  said  that   that  is  the  call  of  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  questioned  whether a  member  of  the                                                               
judiciary branch should be invited, as well.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA DECKER, Staff Attorney, American  Civil Liberties Union of                                                               
Alaska  (ACLU of  Alaska), noting  that  the ACLU  of Alaska  has                                                               
submitted written testimony, explained  that the ACLU of Alaska's                                                               
concern with SB  210 is its proposal to expand  the definition of                                                               
the term, "serious  physical injury" because doing  so could have                                                               
ramifications throughout criminal  law.  Regarding Representative                                                               
Holmes' previously stated example  of children hurting each other                                                               
on the playground,  he said the ACLU of Alaska  thinks that those                                                               
types  of  juvenile  criminal antics  could  result  in  criminal                                                               
liability.    Further,  he  said  if the  child  injured  on  the                                                               
playground  goes to  the  school  nurse and  the  nurse fails  to                                                               
report  the incident  to the  police, she  could be  guilty of  a                                                               
Class A  misdemeanor.  In  the context of domestic  violence, Mr.                                                               
Decker said  changing the definition  could open up  new defenses                                                               
for   domestic  abuses.     Alaska   currently  permits   use  of                                                               
justifiable  deadly  force  to avoid  imposing  serious  physical                                                               
injury on  oneself or another,  and Mr.  Decker said the  ACLU of                                                               
Alaska  can foresee  a circumstance  where  an individual  abuses                                                               
his/her spouse  and then  takes the position  that the  abuse was                                                               
necessary to protect the children  from imminent physical danger.                                                               
He said the ACLU  of Alaska does not think that  is the intent of                                                               
the drafters and recommended a  new approach be taken to narrowly                                                               
target the  specific instances of child  abuse, endangerment, and                                                               
neglect, rather than modifying such  a fundamental part of Alaska                                                               
criminal law that would have far reaching consequences.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR THOMPSON,  after ascertaining that no  one else wished                                                               
to testify, closed public testimony on SB 210.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:41 p.m. to 2:43 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR THOMPSON relayed that SB  210 would be held over [with                                                               
the motion to adopt Version O as the work draft left pending].                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB0210 R.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
Sponsor Statement SB 210.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0210-2-2-032612-LAW-Y.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0210-3-2-032612-DPS-N.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0210-4-2-032612-ADM-Y.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0210-5-2-032612-CRT-Y.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0210-6-2-032612-ADM-N.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
Support Board Resolution on SB 210.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB0122D.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
HCS CSSB 122 (L&C) Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB122-DCCED-INS-03-14-12.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Summary of Changes H L&C.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Supporting Document - Email Howard Hancock, Fidelity Title 2-28-12.PDF HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Opposing Document - Email Crystal Peltola, Alaska USA Title 3-1-12.PDF.msg.PDF HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Supporting Document - Email Kimberly Glisson, Alaska Escrow and Title 2-28-12.PDF HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Supporting Document - Email Terri Wesley, Mat-Su Title 2-28-12.PDF HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB210CSSB(FIN)-LAW-CRIM-04-10-12.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB 210 HCS (JUD) parts list.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
HCS CSSB210 ver O.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB 122 lttr opposing, Old Repub. Title 1-10-12.PDF HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SL&C 2/2/2012 1:30:00 PM
SB 122
Amendment {number} for SB 210 .pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 186
SB 122 Supporting document USA Title Agency.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Leg Legal memo 031512.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
SB 122 Legal Opinion.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 122
CS for SB 210 (FIN) ACLU Review 2012 04 11.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210
SB 210 HCS (JUD) parts list.pdf HJUD 4/11/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 210